Cut It Out: Editing My First Podcast Episode

Nick a -

Hey everyone, and welcome to another blog post!

I thought I would include a Full House reference in my title. I don’t know if it’s the most popular, but I liked watching it when I was younger. This past Friday, I got to meet my mentor in person for the first time. I traveled to ASU Cronkite and made sure to arrive early so I’d have time to find the right building. On a side note, one of the light rail stops was right near the entrance, and I really wanted to ride it for the first time—maybe one day I’ll get to!

Anyway, my mentor showed me the software we’d be using to edit the first episode: Adobe Audition.

I handed her a flash drive with the theme song I created, along with audio recordings from a few of my interviews. She explained that we needed to separate the different voices—mine and my guest’s—into two separate tracks. The theme song would be on another track.

At first, my mentor took the lead on editing and walked me through the key parts of the software. It was much more complicated than I expected! The main tools we used were the razor tool, which cuts audio, and the move tool, which rearranges clips and closes gaps in the recording. A fun fact I learned was that before digital video editing software, film editing involved physically cutting and splicing film reels together with a razor blade. The name “razor” was kept when digital video editing software was introduced. I can’t imagine how hard it must have been to make edits before the introduction of editing software. We also adjusted audio levels and faded the beginnings and endings of different segments.

One thing we relied on a lot—which I hadn’t expected—was background noise, also known as room tone. This is the subtle ambient sound recorded when no one is speaking, capturing the natural feel of the recording space. Placing room tone between transitions, like when one person stops speaking and another starts, made a huge difference in how smooth the audio sounded.

I was impressed by how quickly my mentor could pinpoint edits. From the sound of a cup hitting the table to the rhythm of someone’s breathing, she noticed every detail that could improve the overall quality.

While we made plenty of edits, my mentor emphasized that the goal wasn’t to make the recording perfect—it was to make it sound natural. Over-editing can make speech feel robotic, so we left in some small stumbles and speech mistakes instead of cutting out every single one.

After she walked me through the basics, I took over. By the time I had to leave, I had gotten the hang of it—and I was pretty proud of myself! My mentor listened to my edits, liked what I had done, and pointed out a few small mistakes I hadn’t noticed.

I also got some pictures of myself editing and visiting the studio where they record the Cronkite News segment. I’ve been told I’d be great on camera. By who, you ask? Well… I told myself, actually. But let’s ignore that for now.

Editing my first podcast episode!

 

Another picture of me editing my first podcast episode.

 

    Coffee I got near ASU Cronkite to celebrate my first time editing a podcast episode.

 

Visiting the place where they film Cronkite News. 

While I didn’t include one in my last blog post, I will share a quote from a cartoon that applies to jobs and careers. “When life gets you down, do you know what you gotta do? Just keep swimming.” – Dory from Finding Nemo.  I hope to release my first podcast episode soon, and I’ll see you in my next blog post!

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    danielle_l
    Good morning, Nick! I never realized how much podcasts had to be edited to sound natural; plus, that razor fact was really fascinating. Funny enough, that Dory quote is also one that's been tossed around in my internship the past two weeks; it really is universal. About how many stumbles/speech mistakes did you have to cut to make your podcast sound polished but still natural? I can't wait for the release of the first EP, and I think your pictures look awesome!
    allison_h
    Hi Nick! I love the Full House reference in your title! I was a huge Full House fan when I was younger. I also never considered how much podcasts are edited. I used to think nothing was cut out at all because they sound so smooth. It's so impressive that you are now learning that process! How long is your podcast episode now after you've edited it?
    katherine_v
    Hello, Nick! The history behind the name "razor" for the tool was very interesting to learn. I also appreciate all the photos you included with this week's post; it really helped me visualize what kind of work you are doing as well as the environment around you as you work. Although I understood most of what you explained, I am still a little confused about the use of the room tone. Could you explain more about how it helps the flow of the podcast's audio?
    cason_t
    Hey Nick, you're doing a fantastic job with the Adobe software! I remember when I worked with it, I faced a few quirky challenges, like the audio only playing from one side of a headset. Now that you've got some experience editing the episodes, how long would you say it takes to edit each one? I can't wait to see how they all turn out!
    meggiles
    Nick, what a great post! You know I'm a huge fan of your humor--I snorted out loud when I read about the person who told you you'd be great on camera. Well done. I was also a big fan of the coffee! AND I love that you rode the light rail--I love mass transit. One thing I want to emphasize--how amazing is it that Professor Revazova is spending so much time and energy on you? I am always so stunned by the willingness of professionals to share their work & energy. It's no small thing. The editing details are absolutely fascinating--what an amazing skill to learn! (I wonder if it is something you might be able to share with BASIS Mesa students?--pay it forward?) As to the razor--the same concept applies with films. I triple dog dare anyone who reads this to watch the film CINEMA PARADISO, in which the editing of a film is a devastating plot point. Wonderful work, Nick.
    meggiles
    Nick, what a great post! You know I'm a huge fan of your humor--I snorted out loud when I read about the person who told you you'd be great on camera. Well done. I was also a big fan of the coffee! AND I love that you rode the light rail--I love mass transit. One thing I want to emphasize--how amazing is it that Professor Revazova is spending so much time and energy on you? I am always so stunned by the willingness of professionals to share their work & energy. It's no small thing. The editing details are absolutely fascinating--what an amazing skill to learn! (I wonder if it is something you might be able to share with BASIS Mesa students?--pay it forward?) As to the razor--the same concept applies with films. I triple dog dare anyone who reads this to watch the film CINEMA PARADISO, in which the editing of a film is a devastating plot point. Wonderful work, Nick.
    nick_a
    Hi Danielle, we had to cut out a lot of stumbles. I'm not sure of the specific amount of speech mistakes, but one of the most common words or phrases we cut out was "um". One time through the interview, I said "um" and held it for around 5 seconds. I'm sure nobody wants to hear that, so we cut it out.
    nick_a
    Hello Allison, my first edited podcast episode is around eight and a half minutes. My initial recording was one minute longer. While we did cut a lot of stuff, but they were only brief stumbles or unwanted background noises.
    nick_a
    Hi Kathy! I'll try and explain the use of the room tone to the best of my ability. Without room tone, the transition between me and my guest speaking would sound sharp and unnatural. It wound kind of sound like their audio got cut off. We found 1-2 seconds of room tone towards the beginning of my recording, and just copy and pasted it wherever we need to put it. I researched about the use of room tone, and according to the podcast engineering school, it can be used "to elongate spaces between people speaking instead of inserting a 100% muted section of audio." So, to sum it up, it just makes the sounds between transitions more appealing to people's ears by making the gaps in between people speaking sound more natural. Hopefully that helps!
    nick_a
    Hi Cason! The podcast episode we edited was my shortest one that I've recorded. Even though the audio recording was the shortest, it took approximately 2 hours to edit. That was with help from my mentor too, so it might take me much longer if I did everything by myself. However, when I was able to work on the podcast myself, I understood, for the most part, how to make quick edits. It's all about learning the shortcuts you can take to speed up the process, as well as what speed you playback the audio at.
    nick_a
    Hi Ms. Giles! I would love to share the editing knowledge I learned with other BASIS students. We can try and find out ways that I can teach students some interesting information.

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